Wisdom for Wednesday

Ministry Mindset with Mrs. Lauren Willett

• Crystal Ratcliff • Season 1 • Episode 37

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Ministry is the spiritual work or service of any Christian. To minister to someone is to attend and serve; to perform service in any office, sacred or secular.

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Join Crystal as she chats with her friend Mrs. Lauren Willett. Lauren not only shares about her local church, but also her most recent auto-immune condition and how the LORD has helped her find joy and peace in the midst of it.

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SPEAKER_00

Hi there! Welcome to Wisdom for Wednesday, your midweek pause for truth, encouragement, and practical faith. I'm your host, Crystal Ratcliffe, author, speaker, and fellow traveler on this journey of growing in God's Word. Each week we'll dive into scripture together and have the opportunity to be encouraged in the truth that never changes. If you're able, grab your Bible, a cup of coffee, and let's seek God's wisdom together. Hi there and welcome back to the podcast. I am excited today to bring you another ministry mindset interview. I just love these interviews. I love to get to talk to ladies from different walks of life, different areas of the country, different positions that they're in in their local churches, and just hear what they have to say because I think we can learn from one another, and I just love that. And so today I have a special guest, my friend Lauren is with us today. Well, thank you, Lauren, for being with us today. Why don't you start by telling us a little about yourself?

SPEAKER_01

Hi, okay. I am Lauren. I am from Western North Carolina. Um, I've been married for 16 years to my husband Justin, and we have three kids, and they are 13, 12, and 9. Um, we homeschool and I am a photographer.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, yes, you're a wonderful photographer.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_00

I've had the privilege of having Lauren take my pictures before, and then she always makes my books look so nice. Oh, you're they don't need any help. Well, thank you again for being here. I'm excited. Um, you said your kids were 13, 12, and nine. Yes. So you have two that are very close together.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Um, that was that was the Lord's plan, not ours. But we're they're we're thankful for them. They're they're growing so fast and we're hitting those teenage years, and it's such a different season, which we're all learning together.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, I understand that. Our kids were closer together than we planned for them to be as well. Yeah. But um, so before we jump into talking about ministry mindset and the local church, I did want to talk to you a little bit about your health battle that you faced this last year because I think it could be helpful to the listeners. So um, would you mind telling us a little bit about what's been going on with you this last year?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I have dealt with um autoimmune issues my entire life. I think I was maybe eight years old when the first thing popped up, and that was vitaligo, and that's just like a um a pigment issue where your pigment just disappears. So I've got white spots all over. So that was the first thing, and then my thyroid and just all kinds of things. But this past year, um, I found a bald spot in the back of my head in January um of 2025. And I thought, okay, this is this is odd, but it's okay, we can deal with it. And so I started um trying to take some extra vitamins and things. Um, but that spot just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Um, and over the course of the year, I had lost most of my hair. And it turns out that that was alopecia. And this was a type of alopecia that um was not, it didn't have a high percentage of regrowing. Um, so that's kind of where we are right now. I've lost most of the hair on my head. I still have my eyebrows and eyelashes and things like that, but um, as far as my head, that's we're pretty bare up there.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, and I know our hair as women, truly any part of our outward appearance, it can be so important to us. So how has the Lord helped you through kind of working through your feelings about all of this?

SPEAKER_01

So at first I was um I was trying to be pretty strong about it. It's okay, it's just hair. And then it really started um being visible. And it was easy when I could hide it, but then um, it was the hardest when I would take showers and I would just hold handfuls and handfuls of hair. And um, I would just cry in the shower. I hate to cry, it makes me mad. But that's just the time where I was alone and I would just allow myself to feel and I would just cry in the shower. And that and I started dreading showers because I didn't want to feel that. Um, but so then I started buying like um the sprays that you get for your gray hair to cover up things like that, and then clip bin extensions and trying to match my hair, and it was just a lot. Um, and so I've grown up in church, grown up around the Lord and the things of the Lord, and I knew that praise was a great weapon in the battle. So I just started playing music every time I went to the shower. I started playing music. And um, it's really hard to have a pity party when you're singing with Faith York or the Moors and Sisters, you know, it just puts your mind into a state of praise. Um, but I I also was trying, I was trying so hard to praise that I wasn't being completely honest with the Lord or myself about the fear that I still had. And um, God reminded me of this this morning. It was in my reading, I think it's 2 Chronicles 20 or 22, where Jehoshaphat is leading the army into the battle, and they started singing, and that's when God started working and setting up the ambushments, and and I was just thinking, I've got to sing, I've got to praise, I've got to do this. But the Lord also knew how much I was struggling, and um my praise kind of felt forced. I was trying to make myself do it because I knew I needed to, um, but I was hurting, and so between um January and September, I was just kind of treading water. I was kind of just not being honest with myself or the Lord, and I was just kind of faking it, faking it till I made it. Um but then I was asked um to do a ladies' meeting in Florida, and the theme, I have never spoken anywhere before. This is not my spiritual gift. So it just hit me out of nowhere. Um, but the theme was um when life gives you lemons, and it was from James, and James is all about um count it all joy when you fall into diverse temptations. And looking back, I know now that that meeting was more for me than it was for those ladies because God really wanted me to dig into having joy during the trial and why you can have joy because he's working, he's working patience, he's working in your life and he's doing something so you can have joy. And that that just changed, that changed my whole mindset on my hair and my health. Um, because I knew then that he was working it for my good. I didn't know why. Um, but for the first time I truly experienced joy and I could release the fear and the disappointment of losing hair and um whatever else came with that because I knew that God knew what he was doing, and that that was enough for me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's that's so good. So when was that?

SPEAKER_01

Um, so that happened probably in like October.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

So this past year, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So the whole process kind of started in January with losing the hair and then working through that, and then it was in October when the Lord really brought you kind of to an understanding with it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I mean, and it was like he said, it it's like he spoke to me that I could be it could be so much worse. I mean, there's ladies that are fighting cancer and losing their hair. I mean, I'm just losing hair. That's such a temporal thing. Our bodies are so temporal and it's not gonna last forever. Um, it's not eternal. So my favorite quote of all time is in light of eternity. I want that like posted everywhere in my house because if you start um sorry, if you start measuring everything that happens in your life in light of eternity, it just puts everything into perspective. You start focusing on what's going to last, and that's the ministry, that's the word, that's the praise, and our bodies are not, and our trials are not, it just it just changes everything.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I I am often reminded of how Paul described his troubles, which we know he went through a lot of persecutions as light affliction. Right, right. And I think it's because they were so heavenly minded, just had the right perspective, the focus on eternity. And that's hard sometimes for us, especially when we're in the middle of it. And I really like how you you said you had to you had to get honest with yourself and feel, because I think that's important. Sometimes we can just be saying the right things because we have grown up in church, we know what the right response is, but inside we're struggling. Yes. I like how you mentioned that. You you do have to get to that point, I think, where you let God deal with you honestly.

SPEAKER_01

We do, because he already knows. Yeah, he already knows what we're feeling, what we're trying to hide. And it's just it's a release when you finally give it to him in that way. And that's that's what he did for me. So I'm really thankful. And now I have a wig, and that was a thing of its own. How God worked that out. We went to this wig store. Um, it's Christian-owned and they are precious. And they um said, We don't really carry curly wigs because I have curly black hair, and that's almost impossible to find. But but we just got this one in, and I looked at it, and it was my color, it was my curls, it just looked exactly like my hair. So God just lined that up too. He just he cares about the details.

SPEAKER_00

So I actually, when I saw you in the wig, I was like, Oh, Lauren's hair is growing back. I didn't know you had got the wig, and it looks so good. It does look like your hair.

SPEAKER_01

I know, it was just the Lord.

SPEAKER_00

What a blessing. Yeah, it is nice when you can see those moments, even in the heart, how the Lord is providing and giving grace. And I love that. So, is there anything else you would want to tell someone who might be facing a health struggle or something like that before we move on? Is there anything else you would want to say?

SPEAKER_01

Um, just know that it's not gonna last forever. Um, this I love Faith York song, this trial's gonna end. It's not gonna last forever because the God of all grace is writing your story and he's not finished getting the glory. That's one of my favorite songs because God can only be good and his plan is only good. So even though we're facing things, it's working for our good. So we just have to trust that he knows best, he's never gonna leave us, and he's using this for something. We may not know this side of heaven what it is, but he's he's using our story for something.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's so good. Thank you so much for sharing that. So let's kind of move into now, because this is all about the ministry mindset series I've been doing. So I want to talk to you about your local church a little bit. Um, how long have you been a member there at your local church?

SPEAKER_01

Um, since I was two years old. So 35 years.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Wow. That's awesome. I know that's kind of how I am. The church where I attend now, that is the church I have gone to my whole life. Yeah. Um, my husband as well, except for we spent one year in Phoenix for him to go to school, but the rest of the time has been in our church. So that's pretty awesome when you can be in your home church. Yes. Um, what are some of your favorite things about your church?

SPEAKER_01

Um, so we are a small church. We run probably 125, 150. Um, and so everyone's really close. We we all know each other, we all check in on each other, and everyone's just so friendly. And um, we're just from the mountains and we just have that um neighborly attitude toward each other, I guess. So, and I love our church because anytime there's a need, everyone, everyone is just willing to jump in and feel the need, and they're just so willing to work, and I love that. And our um, our pastor and his wife, they're young and they're excited about ministry, they're excited about growth and our kids, and they just bring a lot of fun and love to the church. So I just I love what's happening. We're learning a lot.

SPEAKER_00

That's awesome. I love that. And I have actually got to go to your church once and I enjoyed my time there too. Everyone was really, really friendly. So um, so let's talk about ways that you're involved in the ministries of your church.

SPEAKER_01

Um, so I am a Sunday school teacher to the teen girls, and that's kind of a new thing in the past couple years. I'm usually um teaching the young ones, um, but that's been it's been good. I've I've really enjoyed it. And I am the um Bible school director and the social media manager, and um, we're part of the visitation on Saturdays that our church is involved in. And then I will sing when I'm asked to sing. My husband's the choir director. That's not my spiritual gift, but I will do it when he asks me to do it. Yes. How funny.

SPEAKER_00

Um so you mentioned you mentioned VBS um and that you direct that. So how do you put it together? What does that look like for your church?

SPEAKER_01

Um, so it is months of planning. Um, I ask for volunteers, and again, our church just shows up. They they come to me and they say, I will work wherever you want me to work, just put me somewhere. And that's such a blessing. So I'll just assign people um to positions and then I will have their materials there and ready um and explain it to them, and they just jump in and do it. And um, but the biggest way that we prepare is we just pray. We pray because it's it's a work of the Lord, and we don't want it to ever just be like a daycare camp for the week. We want God to move and to work in their little heart. So we pray and we pray. And this year, thank the Lord, there are three salvations. Oh, Bible, yeah, so it was just wonderful, and it was just something only God could do, and um, so we're thankful for that.

SPEAKER_00

Now, do you do your VBS during the day?

SPEAKER_01

We do it in the evenings from like six to eight. Okay, and we feed them dinner and all those things, so it's kind of a tight schedule with trying to get in all the rotations and the teaching. Um, but it it it happens.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And then do you choose the theme? How does the theme come about?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I choose the theme. I I look at all the ones that are available and I just start praying, and then I will I will tentatively choose one and then I will give it to the pastor and his wife to pray about, and then they'll come back to me about what they what they feel too.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, they kind of make that final decision. Yes, yep. Yeah, it's fun. We do ours in the evening as well. And our theme usually our pastor comes up with that because he is the one who actually teaches all of the lessons, he writes them himself. So yeah, he does he's very, very good with kids and teachers like teaching them. So yeah, and I was trying, we were talking, it's been um a long time since we've been doing it this way because it's been the whole time he's been at our church, which I should probably know that. I think it's like 25, 25 years, maybe. Wow, I don't know for sure on that, but it's been a long time, so that's kind of how we do it there. Um we did the America's celebrating America's 250th year. That's exciting, and then the different freedoms that we have in Christ. So it was it was good. It's always fun to bring the kids in and to get the church involved. So it is one thing I like I like having it in the evening because then we have our men are involved as well. Yeah, that happens for you. Yes, it does. So it's a little harder sometimes, maybe during the day, to get them there. But yes, anyway, so okay, let's talk about how being involved in your church, you've kind of mentioned some things already, but how has being involved and being a part of the church been an encouragement to you? And is there any specific examples you would share?

SPEAKER_01

Um, so that's really like all I've ever known. I I thank the Lord for my parents and how faithful they were to church because if there was something going on at the church, we were there for any reason. Um, it was never a question if we were going. And it was, you know how some people will say, Well, I can't go to this church event. I have sports. It was the opposite for us. We can't go to those sports events. We have church, we have revival, we've got something going on. So it was always our life has just revolved around church and the events that are happening in the church. Um, and I love it. Being involved with God's people, it's it's exciting. God's people are fun, it's a fun crowd to be around. And um, they really know you and they can help you in those down days and um encourage you and pray for you. And our church really prays for one another, and I'm I'm just so grateful about that. And we have the same goals and the same mindset. So just being around each other is an encouragement. Um, and doing the work of the Lord with them is exciting because you're getting to see God move with some of your favorite people. So um one of my one something that just encouraged me lately was um it was probably three months ago, my body was just angry and it was going through all this inflammation, and I had shingles, and I was out of church, and my hair was thinning, and everything just seemed to be caving. And the ladies just got together and made me a little basket of goodies, and and it was all um gluten-free stuff that I was trying to focus on eating, and and they just came together and made me cards of encouragement and told me how much they were praying, and that just it just really lifted me one a time in a time where I really needed it. So just encouraging to be around God's people.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. I love that. Um, let's talk about ladies' ministries. Um, maybe does your church have ladies' meetings or Bible studies? What kinds of things do they have for your ladies?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, so our pastor's wife puts on a um ladies' meeting once a month, and um she chooses a lady either from our church or a sister church, and they do a devotion for our ladies. And we get together, we eat, um, then we do the devotion, and then we usually sing and we cry and we praise and all the things, but it's such a good, uh such a good time together. Um, and then we also have like a ladies group chat, and all the ladies in the church are in it. So through the week we just send messages of um praise reports or prayer requests, and everybody just chimes in that we're praying for you and all these things. So we just stay connected during the week as well, and it's just it's good.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's neat. And I know um as far as the ladies' meetings, I'm actually gonna see you when this airs, I will be on my way to put your and you're gonna be excited. So I'm excited. I can't wait. That's gonna be fun. Um, so let's talk a little bit about because you you mentioned it with the kind of the priority of church in your life and growing up, but now as an adult and in your family, how do you balance your work, your photography with church and homeschooling, family time, all of that? How do you balance it all?

SPEAKER_01

Um, you can't. So I I am just like everyone else, we have to get things done. And my plate is full, like you said, but um I don't get everything done every day. So I'm really choosy on what things I focus on on the day because I'd rather do a few things well than to do everything halfway. So sometimes my house looks really good and the schoolwork is done, but I haven't done anything with editing pictures or anything like that. Or sometimes I'm caught up on the social media posts at work, I mean at church. And but something always has to give. And I and I try to ask the Lord, what is it that I really need to get done today? What is the most important thing? Um, but something that is non-negotiable is spending time with the Lord, reading my Bible and praying. If I don't do that, then nothing else is going to go well that day. It just helps everything run smoothly, and He will just really lead you in what you're supposed to do that day. So you just take it day by day. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I like that. That's good advice. I know for me, because I for so long was working outside of the home and I had a very rigid structure and routine. And what I have had to learn is that I still need to prioritize the time with the Lord first thing in the morning so that I can kind of start my day off right. And then I've had to learn to be a little more flexible in my day. Yes. And do it more like you're saying, where okay, what is the most important? Because I kind of have these ideas about what I need to get done. And then I'm like, because I'm a very goal oriented person, I would say. And so that helps to keep me focused. Because I feel like if I don't have a plan, I get a little like distracted on things that maybe didn't need to be done that day. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I like a good to-do list. I like to write it all out and have a have a good picture of what I I would like to get done. But then if it if things don't get done, I have to just let it go and say, you know what, tomorrow's another day.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yeah. And just one thing that I have tried to do is always just start praying, the Lord, prepare me for what you have prepared for this day. Because he knows what's ahead and I don't. And I've got to be, you know, I've got to be flexible. I've got to be ready to go and do what what I need to do or help Mark whatever I need to do at the church, all those different things. Um, so let's talk a little bit about your kids. Excuse me, your kids as far as in ministries of the church. How do you get them involved?

SPEAKER_01

Um, so if we are at the church, they are at the church. If we are doing things um to prepare for Bible school or or Sunday school, they're doing that too. Um, if we're going door knocking, we call it door knocking, if we're visiting in the community, they're knocking on the doors. So wherever we are with the church, they are too. So we just try to um take them. And do whatever we're we're doing. Um, right now, sometimes we have to force them into the work of the Lord. So sometimes they may not want to sing on the stage or play their instrument in church, but but we we make them do that because we want them to see what a privilege it is to serve the Lord. And one day we're just trusting that the Lord will flip that into thank you, Lord, that I get to do this instead of my parents are making me do this. But we just try to keep them involved so that they know what an honor it is.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, that's good. Okay, so I have a couple more questions. Um, if you could talk to a woman who's listening and maybe she is just kind of reluctant to really jump in and get involved at her church for whatever reason, maybe she's just too shy or just uncomfortable. Um, what would you say to encourage her to go beyond just attending her church?

SPEAKER_01

I would just say you don't know what you're missing. Um, once you get involved and you get in on it, you're just gonna be just overcome with the joy of the work of the Lord and joy around of being around God's people. It's exciting. Um, and there is a place for everyone. I used to think I can't do this because I'm not a speaker like my cousin Hannah, or I can't do this because I, but God has been revealing the areas that He can use me in, and that um He's given me patience with kids and and just certain areas. So if you think, well, I can't do that because I'm not her, there is a different area that God has prepared you for. So it may be um singing or speaking or cooking or cleaning, but you have a gift to give the Lord and He wants to use you in it. So there's a place for everyone in the work of the Lord, and it's it's a happy place, it's such a joyful place to be in. So I would just say just get in there and see where God can use you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think that's good advice because it is every part, every person, every part of the body is important. Yes, um, and you just need to get in there and get involved. And that is when your church becomes your church family. Yes, because just attending church, it's not the same as when you are there and you're working together and you're serving together, it's just not the same. And so I would just encourage everyone to get involved and make it your church family so that you are really experiencing the blessings of it that come from it. Yes, um, okay. One final question I've been asking everyone the same one on this one is because this is part of my ministry mindset series, what does that phrase ministry ministry mindset mean to you? And how do you think we could all do better about seeing our involvement in our church or our daily walk as an opportunity for ministry?

SPEAKER_01

A ministry mindset is just that. It is um how you think about the work of the Lord. It is um so sometimes we think we have a me mindset, and we're thinking, what can they do for me? How can they help me? Why aren't they doing that for me? Um, but we've twisted what God has really called us to do, and that's to minister to others and not be ministered to. Um one of my favorite passages here lately is in Exodus chapter 33, and it's where Moses um is talking to God about the people who just sinned in their idol worship, and God is gonna remove his presence. And Moses is wanting the people to experience victorious Christian living and not just himself. So at one point he says, If you if you will not forgive their sins, will you just blot me out so that they can go on? And his goal was to get the people into victory, and he didn't even care about himself. He was gonna push everything about himself aside. Um, he was willing to sacrifice these things. That's ministry. Um, that's saying, My hopes, my dreams, my wants, they don't matter. I'm satisfied. I have all of that that I need. Now I need to get others to him. How can I get others into the victorious Christian life? Um, and we are not called to live in comfort. We're called to live out the commission. We got to go. Um, do the hard thing, share the gospel with the waitress, make an extra meal for a family, um, get up early and make that time for the Lord that you know you need to make time for and just look for ways to minister. Um, when you start looking at the needs of others, your burdens seem a lot smaller because it's it's always a lot, um, it can always be a lot worse. And last year um somebody had gifted me a journal and it had a little section in it. And I'm not very good about journaling my prayers or um my thoughts for the day. I wish that I was, and I would like to work on that, but um I did write like my prayer requests down, and that's how I keep up with that. But but but the journal had in it a little section that said, Um, how can I touch a heart today? And it was an everyday's section. And that really got me thinking like we should be looking every single day for a way to help someone else, to minister to someone else's need, because there is always going to be one. So, ministry mindset is just looking for ways to minister to someone else.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, that's good. You mentioned something that I want to ask you about because you mentioned um the commission and being called to go. And I know that you have just had a personal conviction about telling people about the Lord. Um so can you tell the listeners like how would you recommend striking up that conversation? So explain a little bit your process with that.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Um, starting the conversation is the hardest part, but once you get into conversation, it's easy to um turn it over to the things of the Lord. But so what has been working for me lately is when I walk up to someone, I will say, um, hi, I just this may sound random, but but God just wanted to know if I can pray for you about anything. And usually people are willing to tell you um what they stand in need of or something like that. Um, other times I have just gone up to somebody and said, You look so familiar. Where do I know you from? Even if I don't, because then we start talking about where they work and where they go to church or if they go to church, and that opens the conversation. But after we get talking, I um I usually say, Well, can I just ask you a question? And at that point they're comfortable with me and they'll say, Sure. And I say, if you were to stand before the Lord, heaven forbid, tonight, and you died, and you were at the gates of heaven and and God asks, Why should I let you in? What would you say? And that really makes them um share their stance on salvation. So a lot of times people will say, Well, I think that I've been good or that I've done good. And so then that opens up, I can give them Ephesians, you know, like it's not by works. And that just that question right there is the most helpful in knowing if they know what salvation is and how to get to heaven. So that's where I go from there. And then I try to give the full gospel in that quick little conversation. Sometimes they will um stand and listen, and sometimes they're like, no, thank you. And then I just have to turn and walk away. But um, it's it's challenging, but so rewarding.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yeah, yeah. Well, I have admired, I have admired watching your journey on that, and it's challenged me to do better. So I'm thankful and thankful that you would share that a little bit because I know it does, it does just take practice. It's hard at first to get out of your comfort zone, but the more that you do it, would you say that it's gotten easier?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I would say that. And um, the more it's even the more that you do it in a day, like the more you're gonna want to do it. I found myself the other day, um, somebody had stood there and listened to me present the whole gospel and it just like fired me up. So I was like, where can I go now? I want to tell it again, I want to tell it again. Um, it's just exciting. The work of the Lord is exciting, and to see someone who may have heard it for the very first time is just really um eye-opening because we take it for granted that we've grown up in it and that we know it. But there's some people who truly have no idea what you're talking about and they want to know. That's a lie from the enemy saying that, oh, they don't want to hear from you. Yes, they do. They want to hear it because they're looking for something and you have what they need.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you for taking a few extra minutes to talk about that. I probably should have included that in my questions, but I just I just sprung it on you. That's okay. Well, I again, I just want to thank you for taking the time to be with us today. I really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, well, thank you for asking me.

SPEAKER_00

It's an honor to get to do this. Okay, as I mentioned, I am on my way to Tennessee today. So if you could pray for my travels, I would appreciate it. And then, of course, we have that meeting on Thursday evening and Friday in the morning and the evening. And so if you would be praying about that, even if you're not able to go, I would appreciate it. And if you are able to go, make sure you come by and see me. I would love to meet you and get a chance to talk to you. So thank you so much for listening to the podcast. If this has been an encouragement, as I usually do, I would ask you to share it with a friend and then leave a review, leave a rating, all the things. I appreciate that. And so we'll see you back here next week.